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In the GB10 chip specs, both the S-dielet (CPU, memory subsystem and G-dielet (GPU) using TSMC 3nm.

Blackwell Discrete GPU cards are using TSMC N4P node and since the SM count on the G-Dielet share similarity to the RTX 5070s any chance you can test out the performance of the GPU portion?

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Firstly, thanks Chester and a Happy and Healthy New Year to you and George!

Second, that makeup of the CPU reminded me of the recent large Dimensity SoCs - large X cores and the medium size A700 series cores. Maybe Mediatek figured that making the two CPU clusters larger versions of their mobile CPU was easier and quicker?

But, I can't help wonder if the area spent on the ten A cores in the Spark wouldn't have been better invested in ~ 4 additional X cores; saving a few milliwatts here and there makes sense for a smartphone SoC, but not sure it's the way to go for a ~ 200 Wh mini AI accelerator on a wall outlet.

That all being said, this is, after all, an AI box, and the key function of the CPU in those is to keep the GPU cores fed and manage traffic. A bit different from Strix Halo, which is intended to be both this and a strong general purpose computer. Strix Halo manages to be quite good at both, but it's (IMHO) a lot less specialized than the Spark. However, AFAIK, the Spark is still the way to go if AI and the Nvidia ecosystem is important; ROCm is getting better, but, from what I hear, still needs a lot more hands-on effort to make it work.

I wonder if you had a chance to test just how busy those two clusters of ARM Cores are when the Spark is used as intended - for AI? Maybe Mediatek was right about the medium size cores after all, and they'll do just fine "managing traffic"? In that case, were the X cores even necessary?

Lastly, your findings on memory and power allocation with priority for the Spark's GPU reminded me more than a little of your findings for the custom SoC for - the Steam Deck (of all things 😄). Another case of CPU cores getting starved (power and memory) so that the GPU can run at fuller tilt.

In closing, I really appreciate your tests and reviews. And, hopefully, you'll get to test a Battlematrix system from Intel soon, maybe even at or after CES (George, don't be shy asking Intel 😁) .

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